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 Topic: Hall of Fame Stats
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:12 pm Subject: Hall of Fame Stats
Overall Clan Inductees Statistically:

JOG:  18

- Mr. Clean
- Chicali
- Viking
- King CT
- Rabbit
- Bill
- Wooooooooo
- Jeff
- Neji
- Deity
- Mr. Barney
- Frantic
- Rand Taylor
- Sentinel
- Mastaisac
- Raul
- Skylink
- Splinter

LSJ:  4

- LAK
- Scarz
- Kratos
- Manny

SOR/BOJ: 5

- Oh Yeah
- Achilles
- Crazyfoo
- Mastaisac
- Trelum

SDJ: 4

- FEAR
- SuperDuper
- Zarex
- Mr. Joker

UDN: 2

- Chaos
- Nerdvader

BOT: 1

- A-Hole

Valkyrie: 6

- Fearless
- Blaine
- Blade
- Fierce
- Huey/Meph
- Devastator

GNE: 4

- Ninja
- Naga Sado
- Devastator
- Mimmi Da Don

vVv: 9

- King CT
- Fearless
- Devil Wing
- Hattori
- Blaine
- Younes
- Sinister
- Spidey
- Blade

OES: 4

- Zarex
- Superman
- Bill
- Lordjada
 Topic: First Rising Star Match
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: Rising Star Matches Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:02 pm Subject: First Rising Star Match
While the SWBF2 force community has certainly had rising Jedi in the past, it has never once pit those players against each other in the context of a rising star match. Two weeks ago, the community voted for a rising star list that comprised 14 players. This list came to represent players whose skill were rapidly increasing in the community.

In an effort to honor those players who are showing great potential,  the community will do its best to host rising star matches from time to time.

Rising Star Team (April - June 2020):

1. Ajax
2. Trinity
3. SmallC
4. Josh
5. William
6. Chris
7. Asil
8. Excillias
9. Klungo
10. Doves
11. Inferno
12. Tiger
13. Pain
14. Neveryear

*Note: The numbers above do not indicate anything beyond organization

Context Behind First Rising Star Match: It was determined that the first Rising Star match would be done via draft. As Fierce, Manny, Ninja, and Naga made it to the grand finals, the community elected to have the grand finalists choose which rising stars would represent them on the field of battle.

Date: 6/26/20

Team Manny/Fierce: Trinity, William, SmallC, Josh
Team Ninja/Naga: Ajax, Klungo, Pain Chris

Round One: 100-92; team Ninja and Naga
Round Two: 100-81; team Ninja and Naga

Final Score: 200-183; team Ninja and Naga wins


[Watch this video on YouTube]

Rising Star MVP: During the course of the Rising Star match, it also became important for the community to further recognize whose star shown brightest in the match with the award of MVP. In a vote that happened on discord, it was determined that the first Rising Star MVP was @Smallc . From this point forward, all-star MVP's will be honored with a sig in this channel.

Credit goes to @Imani Sado  for the Rising Star MVP sig

 Topic: All-Star Tallies
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: All-Star Matches Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:58 pm Subject: All-Star Tallies
This channel will be reserved for all time all-star players in the New Age of SWBF2...

Ninja (1x)
Manny (1x)
Fierce (1x)
Sketchup (1x)
Huey (1x)
Volt (1x)
Viking (1x; 1x MVP)
Ferrari (1x)
Naga~Sado (1x)
Mastaisac (1x)
Sevyl (1x)
LAK (1x)
Devastator (1x)
CAAMEN (1x)
 Topic: First All-Star Match
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: All-Star Matches Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:57 pm Subject: First All-Star Match
While the SWBF2 force community has certainly had its share of legendary Jedi and Sith, it has never once pit those players against each other in the context of an all-star match. Two weeks ago, the community voted for an all-star list that comprised 14 players. This list came to represent the most skilled force players of the game for the New Age of SWBF2.

It has since been determined that every quarter of the year (every three months), the community will do its best to vote for the most skilled among us in the force community and celebrate that drive to be the best in an all-star match.

First Quarter All-Star Team (April - June of 2020):

1. Ninja
2. Manny
3. Fierce
4. Sketchup
5. Huey
6. Volt
7. Viking
8. Ferrari
9. Naga~Sado
10. Mastaisac
11. Sevyl
12. LAK
13. Devastator
14. CAAMEN

*Note: The numbers above do not indicate anything beyond organization

Context Behind First All-Star Match: It was determined that the first All-Star match would be done via draft. As Fierce, Manny, Ninja, and Naga made it to the grand finals, the community elected to have the grand finalists choose which all-stars would represent them on the field of battle.

Date: 06/23/2020

Team Manny/Fierce: Mastaisac, Viking, Ferarri, Volt
Team Naga/Ninja: LAK, Sketchup, Huey, Caamen

Round One: 100-79; team Manny and Fierce
Round Two: 100-80; team Manny and Fierce

Final Score: 200-159; team Manny and Fierce wins


[Watch this video on YouTube]

All-Star MVP: During the course of the All-Star match, it also became important for the community to further recognize whose star shown brightest in the match with the award of MVP. In a vote that happened on discord, it was determined that the first all-star MVP was @I'm Viking and I'm a GOOBER  From this point forward, all-star MVP's will be honored with a sig in this channel

Credit goes to @Imani Sado for Viking MVP sig

 Topic: Fierce
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:54 pm Subject: Fierce


Younes:

Kendrick was so close to making the cut for the last HoF. His skill alone at the time would have got him into the HoF but he just didnt have much to his name overall. That statement doesnt hold true for this day and age. 100% a HoFer for the swbf2 community. Keep on grinding brother, and stop trolling.

Volt:

Pretty much everyone considered him the GOAT the last couple years the game was active. He surpassed so many great players in such a little amount of time. Him and Fearless are probably next to unbeatable in a 2v2. Fierce is an exceptional team player, and in my opinion, the best "pusher" of all time. He plays nearly every situation correctly and you can learn a ton just by watching him play. This was a long time coming, congratz.

Devastator:

Fierce has easily been one of the players that when everyone heard he wasn’t already in the Hall of Fame they were shocked. I think that speaks a lot for how qualified he is for being in the HoF. Not only has Fierce spent countless hours solidifying himself as one of the greats, this wasn’t exclusive to just Jedi. I’m sure most of you know, but in case you didn’t, Fierce actually played in the BFC. If my memory serves correctly it was for 2-3 season maybe? I also believe he was a great player there as well. He’s been able to mesh with many communities and has been an overall stellar player all around. Fierce’s name is known by all and for a justified reason.

I lack much to say on much more past his skill level as I was never really a scrim partner or got that close to him. I’ve always known him to be a pretty level-headed guy and didn’t ever hear much negativity coming out of him. Recently after speaking wit him some more I can clearly see more what type of guy he is and he does have a real drive for competition but sometimes just needs that extra motivation to get going. He’s always been fun to be around and he’s been a driving force for many players to improve their own game as many look up to him.

Fierce is a yes from me.

Sevyl:

I actually don't have too much experience with Fierce over the years, but what little experience I have, I definetly think he is deserving.

So with my first experience with him maybe 2011-2012, He was a noob much like Manny. However difference being, Manny was personally hand trained by one of the game's greatest Kratos, I don't believe Fierce had that kind of 1on1 training. (maybe fearless but idk I was gone)

When I came back to the game a few years later Fierce was a top tier player all the sudden. He was constantly wrecking me in a server, so I wanted to 1v1 him cause I thought he was just some random person.

Well boy was I wrong, I believe he beat me the first time and I rage quit, severely underestimating my opponent. I was still getting adjusted to being back on the game, tried my hardest against him a few days later and managed to tie with him. Just tie, I didn't want to break it and chance this guy beating me again and he was fine with it! What a champ.

Now in this current age of the game, He has definetly been a top 3 player. He is extremely smart, agressive yet reserved, and a great teammate. Definetly one of the players you can admire when playing against. Also his attitude on the game is definetly welcome of someone of his caliber

Mastaisac:

As many have indicated, it probably does come as a shock that Fierce was not in the first round of the HoF when this all came about back in the day. The reasonings back then were as follows:

- Many argued that Fierce had not proven he could remain at an elite level for a long period of time (years)
- Many also felt that the small sample size of his ascendency, while impressive, just wasn't enough to earn him a spot

These arguments were made back in 2012.

Since those arguments, Fierce, in my eyes and many others here, has always been considered a top five player since then which is truly incredible. Fierce was also a tournament champion before it became "cool." In the prior 2v2 tournament Rabz and I hosted back in 2013/2014, he and Blade proved victorious. Needless to say, he's always been one of those players that instantly gives your team a chance just by having him on your team.

I remember Fierce growing up in BOT. At the time, the community viewed the clan as a bit of a joke Jedi Assault wise. Through determination, grit, and effort, Fierce started to really develop his skill along with Ahole to the point that both he and Ahole were actually not a 2v2 duo to be taken lightly. During that time, I remember Fierce going on a tear with challenging anyone and everyone to a 1v1. I became one of the people that took up the challenge. His greatness was so clear as a player even back then that I knew I had to establish at the outset that it be a pusher vs. pusher match only to have any remote chance of winning as his choker would have obliterated me. You can correct me if I'm mistaken @Fierce, but I think we ultimately tied. What you may not have known was that my whole college dorm floor was watching that match chanting, cheering, and jeering with each point exchanged. All of my friends thought you to be a bad ass, and rightly so. You had my palms sweating and commanded my full attention.

After BOT, he made his way through numerous clans (JOG and LSJ to name a few) taking notes from other great players and picking up morsels and tid bits to better improve his own game. The height of his skill would finally culminate with his inclusion in -V- which has become rightly known in the community as the validation of a player's complete mechanical mastery. Fierce continues to be an elite player to this day rightly being noted as one of those "S" ranked type gamers.

I have become more impressed over time with this man's sense of humility and his ability to check his pride. When I think of the term: competitive integrity, Fierce is the incarnation of that. He has always allowed his game to speak for him knowing full well that one's skill on the field speaks more volumes than any amount of guttural bloviating one could say. I've also come to know Fierce as a most respectful and goofy guy. You're a genuinely "A" class gentleman good sir. I know you have the highest of expectations for yourself, but you definitely deserve your spot in the limelight and the chance to be honored officially by your peers in a more formal format.

Thank you so much for your activity and your presence in the game over the years. You have inspired more than you will ever know

Naga-Sado:

It is well known that fierce is an incredible competitor, on any game or gamemode. It seems so well known at times, we often don’t credit it in the same way we do other players. It may seem a ‘no-brainer’ to induct Fierce. I want to add some of my perspective of Fierce, to really explain why we respect Fierce so much.
I appreciate Isac mentioning Fierce’s beginnings in BOT. Yet another testament to the impact of BOT and its culture to bring anyone up along the competitive path. Fierce started from the bottom politically, but the same could not be said for his gaming skill. Every time Fierce has sought to improve, he knows where he needs to begin, and where he must go to keep improving. From jedi, to conquest, to even COD, he uses his prior gaming experience to expedite his improvement.

Fierce has also developed a consistent playstyle, making him the most versatile player in the game. Many would remark that Fierce is one of the most mechanically skilled players in the game; But to think that is his defining factor is foolish, and doesn’t credit his skill enough. What makes Fierce different from the great players he’s competed against is his foresight. Catching Fierce off-guard or surprising him is a rarity; If you wan’t Fierce to not know what you are going to do: YOU have to not know what you are going to do. Even if a player did manage to surprise Fierce, he knows how to calmly utilize his game knowledge to react with haste.

Fierce is one of the few players who doesn’t play the game, he plays the players. So one could learn all the No-force tricks, switch to keyboard and mouse, learn all the V exploits Fierce helped discover and popularize, and a player would still lose to Fierce using nothing but patient pushes. Fierce’s strategy of “less is more” is also what helps him excel in teamplay. Because he isn’t cluttering his actions with unnecessarily risky plays, Fierce is always a force to be reckoned with. If you have someone tumbled and Fierce is still on the map, that kill doesn’t belong to you at all, you likely just got baited into a double-kill haha. If you thought you could separate Fierce and 2v1 him to death real quick, nope, you better disengage before you overextend and get scrapped like Fierce planned. I find his playstyle so unique because typically we see the analytic players playing super slow or super fast- yet he manages to implement the benefits of both playstyles. Overall, I admire Fierce’s drive to learn, adapt, and raise the mental skill of Battlefront meta.

I’m not gonna bother listing off the clan’s Fierce has been involved in, because he was known as a clan-hoe in some eras. I want to briefly address his time in V and V’s impact on the community. From 2011 onwards, there was a narrative propagated by JOG which stated V and it’s players killed the competitive community. It needs to be stated on record that this was not the unanimous opinion of the community. When JOG left ps2 in 2012, LSJ reemerged and V remained the competition of the community. Even during the least populated and most sombering era of Battlefront 2, V was the sole reason players sought to improve and grow the community. Many of the up and coming players and the veteran players only continued playing because no one had yet to manage beating V in a significant way. The few losses V did take, were usually involving a former V player on the opposite team.  It was also during this era when V started sharing their exploit knowledge and training more players.

The accusation that V made the game inactive originated on websites, yet V was a clan who let their gameplay talk. Is a clan made up of the best players in the game problematic? Potentially, yes. I think it is understandable that the players who made up V came together. They are all very genuine and humble people who didn’t gloat in their domination. V was a group of confident, skilled, and thoughtful players, in the past no one would blink an eye at that I bet. The era V inhabited was also a different time. V was participating in a community who often seemed to prefer forum warriors and honor wars. A community that, during much of V’s reign, seemed very unmotivated to keep progressing. Many were content to maintain their legacies and leave the game to die. Yet, V continued, and the players you see being respected in this new era, also continued. Performing  your best with no audience look is something that should always be commended. The old clans and thought-leaders seemed to value subjugating lots of low-skill players while embellishing the honor of their elite players. I respect V so much, because there was little glory to be had in their era’s. They didn’t do anything unfair to the community. Fierce is a shining example that you don’t have to be the “chosen one” like Manny, or the “golden boy” like Neji to gain respect in a community. You just had to be genuine in your passion for the game, first and foremost. So no, they didn’t snuff out the activity of the game. V gave players a reason to keep playing. Our current new era looks MOST like the era’s when V was around. Not a ton of players, but a ton of passion. And the players at the top are a few stories taller than everyone else. How will our community respond this time?

That was a bit of a tangent but Fierce is V and V is Fierce. Speaking more personally now, i’d like to briefly mention the impact playing with Fierce has had on me. If you saw Fierce and I chatting in a server or playing against each other, you’d probably think we hated each other. He is troll and I am troll, so its possible that is sometimes true. But I have always respected Fierce like and older gaming-brother. I think BOT is the only clan we’ve ever been in at the same time, funny enough I think we were in BOT for jedi around 2010 and BOT for conquest around 2012. When you are toxic like A-hole was, it brings people together haha. But for the rest of my Battlefront career, I have always wanted to compete against Fierce. That isn’t to say I always was competing against him, but in Conquest and Jedi, I knew my goal was to be good enough to compete against him. In conquest, Fierce wasn’t just solid at every class, but he was starting material- capable of going toe-to-toe with anyone. His aptitude for being a flexible player is what has made him a standout over all these years. In jedi or conquest, if you were competing against Fierce and lost, you could at least take solace in learning from all the ways he killed you.

Even in my personal gameplay, there are responses and tactics that I know I gained from playing against Fierce. For example, the way Fierce uses every save as an opportunity to gain a kill. Most players using Darth Maul will get a tumble and just start comboing , trying to quickly finish their long combo animation; Never Fierce. A tumble for him is just convenient bait, allowing Fierce to out blink-block his opposition. If Fierce has a player tumbled or his own teammate is tumbled, he never hesitates in his response. He quickly positions himself safely, and often does NOTHING. You don’t understand how to properly make a save until you can save your teammate by literally just standing there with your block down. And let's say the opposing player gets bold and pushes or goes in for the kill. Fierce will effortlessly angle his push to tumble the enemy who thought they would be safe in a 2v1. Fierce is one of the few players who exploit the enemy teammates actions against each other, even if they don’t realize how badly they got outplayed.

In summation, I felt compelled to add this because Fierce is one of the few people thoroughly respect and admire as a player. I don’t just respect him as a player though, he has always been an enjoyable person to talk to and game alongside. He has never been one of the players to play the political games, yet he has impacted this game more than most veterans and has the records to show. I don’t believe in nominating someone just because of their skill, and I felt like that was being a bit implied with how this channel looks. Fierce is the reason most of the veteran players are still around with a purpose. The 2v2 tournament displayed how even without V being officially present, Fierce was still able to be at the apex of the community. We wouldn’t have been motivated to play or keep playing as hard as we have without Fierce’s presence! I know players like Fierce are motivated by the prospect of learning something new and pushing the limits to which they can improve. When people are at their highest point, the fear of perfection often sets in. The dread that there is no where higher to go, nothing to question your absolute skill, no more moments of reflection and learning, no more joy of devising new strategies and skills, no nostalgic wonder of motivation. These are the aspects that motivate one to develop themselves and invest in the community. So as a thank you gift for all the inspiration and knowledge I’ve gotten from you Fierce: We will give you the gift of a GNE 2-peat victory!

Rabbit:

I voted yes for Fierce back in the day and will vote yes again now. Fierce had always been a player that played with so much confidence. I remember when Isaac and I played him and Blade for our finals in the 2v2 tourney in 13’ we got WHOOPED. Lol Fierce was a dominant player then and still is now. He won last 2v2 tourney & got into the finals ALMOST winning it again. Lost by a handful of points. This guy is more than deserving
 Topic: A-Hole
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:47 pm Subject: A-Hole


Viking:

He made it to the semi-finals alongside LAK, which brought them to the 4th place team in the whole tourney. That’s crazy good lol. That’s higher placed than Splinter and Devastator, Raul and Ferrari, Sevyl and Huey, Rabbit and Isaac, etc. That says something that people should take note of. It’s not all LAK doing the heavy lifting, it’s both of them playing as a team as I feel like a lot of people are not understanding.

Ahole, like Isaac mentioned, has notable achievements on both conquest and Jedi. This is a Jedi HoF. He has had to have great achievements in Jedi. He was a prominent member in the Cantina days (the noobier Abyss practically) and of course is the founder of BOT who did a lot for the game Jedi wise, again like Isaac said above. The conquest achievements just adds onto his list but this really showcases that Ahole was just simply really good at the game in all respects. If he did choose Jedi to full immerse himself into, he would have been even greater. And right now, again, he placed 4th with his teammate LAK. That is good.

Mimmi Da Don:

Since i am BOT to the core i can speak on this situation in more depth. When it came to joining BOT for Jedi.That process went through me more than ahole. He was focused on conquest moreso than Jedi. But an important  point; ahole is literally the largest reason that i did not stop playing the game. I was initially notorious for being banned from the abyss for taunting. I would go in there and headhunt anyone who seemed good. Ahole saw past that rough exterior and asked me to join the clan. I worked my way up the ranks and became clan leader with him literally within a month. He had a way of motivating people. On top of the fierce ahole 2v2. Myself and those two were a consistent 3v3 group that literally would challenge anyone trying to get better. I think fierce can attest to ahole’s consistency being a great point in his jedi advancement as well. BOT was a essentially like a G league or farming league for players to eventually become great. Ahole deserves to be in based on the amount of players he gave an opportunity to be great. I think the old fashion clans were so fixated on success of their clan that they didnt know they were killing the community. (VVV LSJ JOG taking all the talent and leaving rest of the community out of place) Granted i had stints in all three clans.. the clan that meant the most was BOT. There HAS to be someone willing to take the lumps and allow the community to grow in different aspects instead of just being on the “winning team”. I enjoyed the role of being the underdog and alot of people that the big clans usurped or sniped from the smaller clans should be on here clicking thumbs up. Half of the future rosters were filled with players that learned a great deal from guys like Ahole. Ahole contributed to the survival of the community exponentially more than any of the powers that be will admit.

Sparta:

Those of you who know me really well know that I’m actually a conquest player. I played it before the ps2 community came to pc and after gamespy ended and it left pc. I think it’s fun to play, and I think it’s fun to watch. Ahole is someone who is really fun to watch. I followed and watched the bfc for years, and BOT Ahole was always someone I rooted for. I know he’s amazing at conquest, but I never knew he was also amazing at Jedi. I’ve played with him on pc a couple times, and I was always amazed with him. “Is that really Ahole?” I would catch myself saying, because I was shocked with his talent. Like skylink, he’s one of those players who gets slept on a lot, but that shouldn’t be the case. Ahole is a boss in both of the ps2 schools of swbf2, and deserving of his spot in the Hall of Fame.

Hattori:

Voting yes based on the context provided by others, but also because of Aholes performance in the most recent 2v2 tourney.

GOR was the punching bag for any clan that wanted to break into a higher echelon. I remember BOT being in a similar situation but the difference is they clearly gave a shot to people who went on to have an impact. When all was said an done, GOR and it’s key players got the respect they were due and I feel BOT should as well and clearly that comes down to what Ahole started.


Ninja:

Got my vote. The man beat Superduper. GGs.
 Topic: Mimmi-Da-Don
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:36 pm Subject: Mimmi-Da-Don


Naga~Sado:

Mimmi-da-Don is a name that every veteran ps2 player knows, and for good reason. Don has been a key player in some of the most active clans across the eras such as: GNE, LSJ, GJ, and vVv. I first met Don in 2010, when he was the clan leader of BOT. He was often thr only thing keeping the clan together, back when BOT was huge in conquest and solid in jedi. BOT doesnt get enough credit for the amount of new players it brought in and trained; or the competition has brought to both jedi and conquest communities.Any clan that Don participates in seems to navigate the competitive space better.

While most know Don as a calm and collected gamer, he occasionally admits to being a competitor at heart. We often neglect to mention how important working with people who are often our competitors is. Doing so in a way that motivates all levels of players. Don has displayed his leadership consistently, since 2013, leading GNE with Ninja from the start. And in 2014, when the ps2 jedi community was deceased, Don kept the clan motivated during the move to pc; contributing to GNE's 126-42 clan scrim record.

Speaking of skill, Don is a renowned player in 3v3 and 4v4 clan matches. He was also one of the most patient and hard to kill 1v1ers. Don has the ability to react to any attack in a way that puts his opponent at risk. In large scrims, he often dictates the strategy, while keeping all the players focused. Players like Sinister, Neji, and more importantly Ninja, have commented on Don's skill and leadership. And since the OSB community has returned, Don ready to get back to his former glory, but better. Although he rejoined the community late, and had many technical problems, he has now made adjustments and is prepared to win a 3v3 tournament

In conclusion, Don is one of the most respected players of this community since the last HoF. Yet he is also one of the most genuine and funny people I have met. I am glad to see him more involved as admin, his input is always insightful and respected.

Younes:

My dude Mimmi and I have been through alot back in the day. We lead vVv together when the -V- boys dipped out on us. We held it together and kept on doing our thing on the game. As Naga stated, this mans name rings to many in the community as not only a level headed gamer but a great dude to be around. He has always had the skill to keep his team focused and on task in the middle of a match. Always keeping the game fun for all gaming with him or against him. 100% yes for me.

Hattorri:

I believe Mimmi is a player who missed out on the last HoF due to timing and this should be rectiified. He's put the time in and I remember him being one of the few new school players I was impressed with upon my various cameos back into Ps2. He's also shown a knack for a level headed approach to community issues in this rebirth. Ez yes for me :thumbsup:
Volt: I'm going to vote Don in based on his skill and leadership abilities. He's helped lead two top tier clans in vVv and GNE which says a lot. Imo, he's like the vVv version of Isac (in terms of playstyle). He excels in 3v3s and 4v4s where he is able to capitalize on the chaos that his teammates have caused. Don has always been the kind of player that every clan wants in their lineup. On top of that, Don is a respected member of the community and always gives a levelheaded perspective no matter the situation. Everyone knows who da Don is, now put 'em in the HoF.

Mastaisac:

I've been half and half on this since the time that Mimmi has been nominated. What many have expressed here is absolutely true.  In a larger match setting, you definitely want to have Mimmi on your team because his playstyle has historically always been one of support. He has good intuition in knowing how to flank, sneak attack, and control the flow of a game and its eventual outcome.

This being said, his identification as a solid support player, in my eyes, has always been just that: solid. Of the top support players I can think of, Mimmi always ends up being close but never able to quite cross that threshold for me. Again though, if you asked me to assemble a 4v4/5v5/6v6 squad back in the day, Mimmi always would have been a solid pick because his play style naturally elevates others around him thereby making his team have a better chance at winning... But his individual skill and his level of support as compared to other support players would have made people choose others over him if given the option. If the HoF was solely based on skill, I would have been a no...

However, I think the element that pushes Mimmi over the edge for me has been his leadership over the years combined with his solid gameplay. Though I do remember Mimmi in vVv and eventually leading the clan with Younes when -V- left the whole of the clan high and dry, I don't remember him shining as much as when he was in GNE leadership wise. I think Mimmi shines most with GNE towards the end of the Abyssian Age (2012) and through the expansionary era of the game from around 2013 - 2015. I do fondly recall many clan battles against GNE with JOG and that being a key factor as to why the game continued to thrive in the force community during that era. Mimmi and other leaders in GNE have to be given credit for helping to keep the game interesting and competitive during that era. GNE also did many battles with -V- facing a similar grind and inspiring players like Naga/Trinity to continue to improve

On a personal note Mimmi, when vVv started to fall apart, I remember fondly having you on the top of my list as a JOG recruit. Not only did you possess the skill of a solid support player, but you also came off to me as a quality leader and quality clan member. Though you did end up leaving JOG for reasons I forget, I am glad to see your leadership showcased with GNE over the years and used to bring activity to the game. When you told me you rejected the invitation to join -V- back in the day, I gave a hearty laugh because even back in the day you had the foresight and intelligence to realize that the game's activity depended upon a more balanced approach rather than a complete collective of immense talent in one entity... You have my respect and my vote good sir!

Spidey_Almighty:

Mimmi has put more than enough effort into making this a great community over the years, lead some S-tier clans and is a great player in his own right. Only reason I feel people are on the fence about him is that he's not much of a clout chaser. I voted a while back, but it's been a yes from me.
 Topic: Blade
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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:24 pm Subject: Blade


Volt:

Blade literally invented the modern day choker. Most the fancy choke tricks, namely the V choke (and other mechanics like the crouch push aka ZEUS push),  were invented by him. No idea how he didn’t get into the first HoF tbh.  He was one of the few elite players back in the day that would constantly 1v1 me and helped me improve a lot. This ones a no brainer imo

Mimmi Da Don:

Blade literally has the best choker of all time. A match with VVV everyone conceded to Blade choking.. that speaks volumes. His Vader could break the front line of the opposition in a 4v4 and come out unscathed way too often. Once blade gets back in the groove of things.... the people who are unaware will feel his wrath.
Yes by a mile.

Ninja:

I will be waiting for the return of the biggest hoe to Grace the game. Also a yes for me

Hattori:

No brainer, give him his gold jacket

Younes:

This man discovered a lot of things in the game that i didn't even know about until i came back. Always a fine guy to have on your team and most definitely face since he always played at a higher level. Was top 3 at the end of ps2 era days and he will probably get back to that standing soon on the pc side of things.

Raul:

One of the players that changed the gameplay of swbf2 entirely. His skill alone is worth of HoF. One of the best players the game has ever seen. No brainer. Yes.

DevastatoR:

I never really got to play with Blade a whole lot competitively back in the day as I was never the competitive player myself. Even though I was not quite in the same niche of gameplay, Blade was a name everyone knew and for good reason. Blade has found and shown game changing mechanics and in a sense crafted a meta to the way the game was played. Not only has this guy founded what we would consider to be fundamental mechanics at this point, his skill level was upon the highest of any to ever grace this game. Blade is known to be one of the absolute best Vaders and his return has everyone eager to see it in action.

Due to my lack of knowing Blade personally I run low on things I can personally say about him. Blade is on the same level as Fierce in terms of everyone being shocked he wasn't already on the original HoF and that speaks for itself. Blade was always on another skill tier that was the very peak whenever he was playing competitively and his clan records and scrims vs. very well-respected players expresses that clearly.

Fierce:

I Could Write an essay about How great of a player  this dude was at his prime. I’m sure I’ve played against Blade the Most throughout the Years, probably only other person who played him more was Fearless.
When I first Joined vVv I would see Blade around, ...at this point he was already going through the ranks, trying to establish himself as a Elite player.

Being that he was Fearless “Star Pupil”  at the time, I felt the need to always keep up with him, and to one day be able to compete at a High level against him.
As time went by we always seemed to  cross each other  paths, whether  he was in the same clan as me or if we were scrimming against one another.

As a lot of people know by now, Towards the Tail end of our Careers we came together and Formed one of the Greatest Duo teams this  game has seen.  With the likes of his Vader and his Style of aggression on Hero’s, we proved to be A fearsome 2v2 squad

As I stated on my Top Ten List Blade Changed the meta of the game. His Vader Alone shaped and molded the way that Most Vader’s still Play like today.
I remember Spending countless number of hours in a server together, figuring out different Exploits of the game to add to our arsenal.
Those moments  Is what I cherish most.

Honestly You can make an argument to why I didn’t make it in the HoF in 2012, but Blade should have 100% got inducted .

So my vote is a “Yes” and Congratulations Brother!!

P.S. Carry me in this tournament too please! And Thank you.

LAK:

Finally. Someone who deserves some love.

Rabbit:

Blade absolute yes from me. I remember playing him back in the day and judged him as a complete noob. I remember playing against him again a month later and my god he had did a complete turn in his gameplay. I think Blade was one of the few players who had truly shocked me with how quick he picked up this game and excelled at it . His Vader was easily the best or one of the best of his time. Literally unapproachable. He’s just recently got back on the saddle and I hope he’s able to pick it back up again. A few more weeks tops I feel like he can be top 5 again. Man is a BEAST.
 Topic: Skylink
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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:53 pm Subject: Skylink


Master~Raul:

I think most of you understimate this guys skill. He is one of those smart yet agressive players with his luke and an annoying Anaki, as @Fierce  would agree with me haha His leadership in JOG is also remarkable. I say yes for him.

Volt:

Truly a guy that lets his skill do the talking. Probably one of the best Anikans I've ever seen play... he plays very aggressive with it while also being extremely hard to take down. I feel like Skylink's skill was always overlooked, but when he goes hard he can compete with anyone. Everyone respects him both in and out of game, and another player that I thought should have made it in the first HoF.

Spidey_Almighty:

Skylink has had a strong presence in the community for years. This is another one I'm surprised is not in the HoF already. Very talented player and great teammate.


Mastaisac:

Better known as Psyche currently, Skylink's greatest reason for entrance into the Hall of Fame is the high level of consistency with respect to his skill he has displayed over the years. I mostly remember Skylink for his courage in always wanting to play against an amazingly talented roster in -V-'s hey-day. In particular, his partnership with Viking and Berserk was a combination that could really push -V- to the limit provided the matchups were done right. A couple of snippets I gathered from the archives:

JOG: Mastaisac, Berserk, Skylink vs. -V-: Blaine, Fearless, Fierce; JOG wins 100-83

JOG: Skylink and Viking vs. -V-: Fearless, Fierce; JOG wins 79-72

JOG: Berserk and Skylink vs. -V-: Fierce and Blade; Tie 48-48

JOG: Berserk and Skylink vs. -V-: Huey and Fearless/Blade swaps in; JOG wins 54-53

JOG: Skylink, Viking, Berserk vs. -V-: Fierce, Huey, Blade/Blaine swaps in; JOG wins 92-77

JOG: Skylink and Berserk vs. -V-: Blade and Fearless; JOG wins 46-40

JOG: Skylink, Berserk, Viking vs. -V-: Blaine, Fierce, and Blade; JOG wins 100-96

JOG: Skylink, Viking, Berserk vs. -V-: Blaine, Fierce, Blade; JOG wins 99-97

Of the 10 wins on record, Skylink was involved in the majority of them. Considering the amount of wins from other clans at the time going up against an all-star collection, it's actually commendable for any clan to get any win against the type of lineups -V- would throw. But that particular line-up of Viking, Berserk, and Skylink was always a good one I knew could beat V in certain spots provided the match-up. That particular match up caused V to ensure they put up godly players against that 3 (some combination of Blade/Fierce/Ninja) which became just too much to overcome.

For eight years I would say, Skylink has shown top level talent and a high level of competitive rigor. Ask Fierce, Manny, Blaine, Ninja, Huey, Fearless, etc and they would all tell you how much respect they have for his skill alone

I think the thing that holds him back at times is that Skylink really focuses on his gameplay as one of the most important items on his agenda. As, historically, he was never winning against V the majority of times, most never think of him as an elite player because he was always on the losing end. That being said, I think it very much depends on how you view -V-. In my eyes, they were an all-star collective making any clan victory against them a celebration since it was such a tall task to win. The fact that Skylink kept grinding and continuing to try and secure a win even against insurmountable odds clearly outlines the pure dedication the man has to win. And he did beat -V- a good handful of times which helps his cause some. As I always say, greatness only happens if you have players who compete, and Skylink was one of the fiercest competitors back in the day and still continues to be.

With respect to his leadership, I can most certainly attest to his level of activity within JOG and his desire to both keep the game active and to help organize in-clans and such. His leadership I think is underrated in that most have just never had much contact with him to see his skill put into practice.

Skylink is truly a model of consistency with respect to his high level of skill. He had an awkward phase in this new era with work taking over his time to truly play, but I think he's going to prove folks wrong who think otherwise of him in tournament play.

Naga~Sado:

I appreciate Isac's expanding on Skylink and including the stats was also a nice touch. I am still undecided here. I am not sure If i am just ignorant and out of touch with his era. But I don't feel like Skylink was that much before my time, especially if he was competing against V. From what I gather he seems to be a more gameplay driven player who was respected in JOG. But I wouldn't think to name him as a leader in/of JOG so i'm basing that on what i've read. I cannot deny he is a solid player. In this new era I always enjoy playing against him and I am sincerely hoping he will shine in this tourney(especially since he's on Trinity's team). Viking mentioned he was at the helm in 2012, so he must have been involved in the pc migration i'm assuming? Which is good, but I was definitely around then and never heard much buzz about Skylink. I remember hearing about Ferrari being on the rise around that time too. Not that I would particularly care that anyone was beating pc players at force in 2012. I want to be clear, I completely agree he is a skilled player and where I have gaps in my knowledge i completely believe he was a skilled and relevant player in older eras as well. I cannot speak much to his leadership, popularity, or community impact though, which would be the other criteria for HoF in my opinion. This isnt to belittle his accomplishments or question his impact, I value every single player, and i mean that seriously. But it would bring more value to the community to see Skylink shine in this new era, rather than enshrining him to say "you've done enough now". These are just my opinions and my reasoning for not yet voting for him.

LAK:

dude was apart of JOG's elite 3 at the end of ps2. tried competing with V. one of the very few joggers that wasn't from the 06 squad that deserves any recognition.

Rabbit: I’m a yes for Skylink for a few reasons:

Consistency: this man has been around FOREVER ... he played back in the day with Jeff, Super Duper and the rest of the greats. During each phase of the game Sky has been able to transition with different play styles and still be badass each time he got on game. Was he ever an S rank player in all the different phases of this game? No, but he was pretty close to it. He’s adapted to each season of this game despite all the changes and remained a top tier player.

Passion:

Sky is competitive in heart and has sparked a bunch of activity back in ps2 when players were starting to dwindle down ... him along with Manny and Viking (the ultra JOG trio back in the day) kept V coming back for more and more & encouraging competitive battles.

Sparta:

Skylink is a super cool dude, and a gifted player in whatever game he’s on. Skylink was part of the second wave of ps2 players to come to pc. I remember not having a clue who he was or considering him a threat, but when he came out on Ani I was swiftly shown otherwise. Sky is a true master of force play. He was never the very best, but always consistent and deadly accurate. I had the honor of facing him for my master trial in JOG, and he defiantly was no pushover. I think Skylink might sometimes be overlooked, but that would be your first mistake, because he’s a deadly assassin, and definitely deserving of a spot in the swbf2 Hall to Fame.
 Topic: Master-Raul
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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:47 pm Subject: Master-Raul


Rabbit:

He’s been here since PS2 days and has proved to be a great player & community member to SWBF2. He helped recruit and train a lot of good players we see today (Ferrari,Asil, Tiger and others) and is a great player. Also helped Branch the PS2 community to PC early in 2012-13 with splinter and helped bridge that gap where no one wanted to switch over then. Raul absolutely deserves to be in HoF and his made his name a staple to the community.

Naga~Sado:

Definitely one of the most well known high level players of the pc era. Always looked forward to playing against Raul. He has contributed alot to the activity of the game over the years as well.

Spidey_Almighty: Pretty surprised he's not already in tbh. Thought he was.

Ferrari:

I think everyone over looks the contribution of that Raul has made in the transition over to PC from PS2. As far as i understood, Raul and Splinter both played huge roles in this transition but I hardly hear the mentioning of Raul. I remember when I was on PC he was one of the people that actively made forum posts on SWGO pc side trying to introduce the emerging PS2 sector. Also would like to note the contribution Raul has made over the years in training up new talent and new players in the communities. From a nf player to force, he was the one that trained me and taught me the mechanics of force. In my opinion, if he was the one to enable me to play the way i do today i definitely think he deserves to be in HoF .

Volt:

A fellow Neji apprentice. Everyone is talking about his leadership abilities and how he led the charge from PS2 to PC so I will speak on his skill. I wasn't able to play with Raul at his prime on PC, but on PS2 he was a force to be reckoned with. It was crazy seeing him go from one of the BIGGEST noobs of all time (Aleman2) to a high caliber player in JOG in such a short amount of time. Kind of sucked that he had to quit PS2 right as he was hitting his prime. However, he's obviously made other great accomplishments on PC and is still to this day one of the best out there. He's one of the best aggressive players... and in my opinion one of the best Lukes in the game right now.

Mimmi Da Don:

Truth be told, i was a late comer to pc. When i heard JOG was heading over i literally said “fuck that” this game is dead. Little did i know that small expedition planted the seed to a strong community years later. We play this game because raul paved the way on the pc side.
Yes is my answer

Josh:

Raul was my first master in JOG and taught me the fundamentals and coached me to be a competent player in the og PC community. He is a great teacher and you can see his legacy in players such as myself and Tiger. Not only that, he’s a great player himself and one of the top players in the current community. Raul deserves a HoF spot for sure.

Younes:

Masta Raaaaaaaaaauuuuul, he brought El Tigre to us. That is enough for him to be in the HoF. But in all seriousness, Raul was at the front of making the move over to PC back when ps2 servers were on the verge of being shut down. Raul made the push along side the other members of JOG Security team if I remember the name correctly. He competed and showed alot of the PC gamers the way of the force. Brought on alot of new faces that are now part of our community. Glad to have met you, lead with you, and also competed with you. Keep on grinding.

Hattori:

Raul was a name I remembered from the later eras of PS2. Seeing how far he's come since then and also now hearing his impact in the PC transition means he has my vote :thumbsup:

Splinter:

There isn't much I cannot say about one of my best friends on this game, one of my original duos, and a friend and even brother that I could lean and feel support from and vice versa when this whole jaunt into PC began.  I'll never forget seeing the JOG tag in the SWGO HA server one day out of the blue and the name Master-Raul attached to it, neither of us was very good back then I think lmao.  But we had a lot of passion, and we would slowly build the PS2/PC iteration of the community from the ground up, none of what I receive credit for would of been possible without this man back then.  I'd of probably gone mad.

This isn't to understate that he put up with me either, many can attest to how bad I would get sometimes back then and he took it all in stride.  Really I owe this man a lot even if we did grow apart as time progressed.

We did it all together, we went from the JOG clan we built on PC and formed from the ground up to reviving Veni Vidi Vici with permission from Sinister on PC, we were both extremely competitive to a fault and as time progressed and we adapted to PC we got damn good too.  While I believe that part of it was our willingness to adapt to the different platform back then that attributed some to how good we were back then, I think we also just hit our stride and really began to understand the game at this point even if it was late in it's life.  Still one of my favorite people to play with to this day.
I have to attribute much of my play style to him too, I was always a smart person when it came to gaming but I loved to play fast and aggro.  But with him he was the one who preferred to apply pressure, so I learned to become a jack of all trades of sorts playing with him and growing with him.  Without him I probably wouldn't be the player I am today.

Honestly though, words really can't express my thanks, gratitude, respect, and much more towards Raul.  He was without a doubt a great partner in crime over the years and I wouldn't of done what we did with anyone else.  It may be hard for us to play together now with differing schedules, but I still remember the years previous very fondly and I always will.  They were some of if not the best years I had on this game and within it's community.

Congratulations brother, you more than deserve to take your place in the Hall of Fame.

DevastatoR:

This one will be short and sweet from me as I don't know much of Raul outside of my limited interactions and hearsay of what his accomplishments are.

Raul as everyone knows is part of the duo that built up the PC Force community alongside Caamen. His efforts and impact to the community alone have allowed us to have this Discord server and reunion that we have going on currently. Even before PC he was a notable figure on the PS2 scene.

As for his skill, I never played alongside him often but he was also in -V- after moving to PC. He and Ferrari kept up the same level of skill as expected from PS2 on PC. An insanely great player even to this day.

A yes from me.

Mastaisac:

For a brother in arms:

Raul, I remember when you were better known as Aleman. You have come a long way from where you once started in your SWBF2 journey.

Some words to describe you: loyal, driven, committed, steadfast

Your loyalty to JOG over the years has been incredible. Your fierce desire to represent the clan along with your brothers in arms back in 2011 was the key to that explosion of summer activity after the JOG vs. LSJ match. I probably have the logs somewhere in my computer, but back in 2011 there came about an intense desire from the community to do many matches/scrims. Raul was involved in pretty much all of them. I remember I kept individual stats of players' overall participation in matches...  Raul was in like 70% of all JOG matches and in-clans which totaled over 100 or something crazy like that for just matches/scrims alone. Not only that, but the guy was organizing and pursuing these matches/scrims with anyone who wanted to play. He became the unsung hero for why that explosion of activity happened

So it made complete sense for JOG at the time to have him lead the PC security council along with Splinter and begin to make in-roads with the PC community. He has obviously done more than a fantastic job with that and planted a seed not only for JOG, but for the entire community to make a successful transition to a new gaming frontier for SWBF2...  something no one else aside from Splinter can take credit for within our force community. It's a really unique achievement honestly.
Raul's skill really began to pick up when he joined -V- along with Ferrari. Most notably, his Vader and Luke began to become quite the headache to deal with. His playstyle has always been one of aggression, but has been tempered and magnified by his ability to not let his aggression carry him too far off. He is a mic warrior as well. Raul likes to call shots on the mic and often makes the correct calls when it comes to changing scenery when his team is not doing well
I remember the days when Raul used to always comment on mic something along the lines of "damn it Isac, how did you do that?!?" I don't hear that anymore from you! It speaks to the level of skill you have developed. You are a force to be reckoned with and can contend with any of the "greats" if you put your mind to the task.

The one thing I think also gets overlooked with Raul is the man's natural gift to train and identify talent. His scouting out of Ferrari in particular and his effort in training him is truly remarkable considering Ferr is considered top talent in the current era. He is also currently developing Asil and Tiger as well, two players who are on the up and coming... Asil in particular is getting better each day.

One last thing: I think the thing that has driven Raul has been his desire to be in one of the "big matches." I've spoken to you many times about it Raul, and it's one thing among many I regret I was never able to help set for you. I think it's a reflection honestly of many newer players today to want to be involved in the "big one" which is why I am excited that opportunity has been developed in this new era in the form of tournaments. It allows players to have that epic match that many of the older players had back in the day.

Make no doubt about it though sir, you are a great player and your contributions cannot go unnoticed! You have more than earned your place in the Hall of Fame. I'm one of your biggest fans and will be the one cheering the loudest for you in future tournaments. I'm glad to think of you as a great friend as well
 Topic: Naga-Sado
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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:42 pm Subject: Naga-Sado


Mastaisac:

Skill:

From who Naga once was back in the force community with respect to his skill and where he has come, it has certainly been quite the climb. In this New Age he has been nominated as an All-Star, is a well-known name with respect to his level of play, and has recently won a 2v2 tournament with Ninja beating Fierce/Manny not once, but twice.

When it comes to his gameplay style, Naga actually reminds me of how Sinister, Jeff, and Myself have played. Although I think Naga would rather classify himself as a highly aggressive player, I think his more natural position is that of a support/smart player and highlighting others' play. He often is that player that gets lost in the thick of the battle and ends up being the one killing you by some type of sneak play. He is also quite solid when it comes to saves and really relies on his smarts to guide his path on the battlefield.

There are, I think, some justifiable questions to ask based off of Naga's most recent 2v2 run:

- Naga's KDR hovered around the 0.8 area last I recall for the tournament. While this can certainly be argued based on team play style, it does bring into question why there were more deaths than kills

- How much of the 2v2 tournament win was overall improvement from Naga or genius level gameplay from Ninja throughout? I don't think there is any question that Naga continued to get better throughout the tournament, but as to whether that improvement was the key for the eventual championship or whether it was just the level of play from Ninja can be put into question.

Regardless of these two points I mention, to be able to beat Manny and Fierce twice in a tournament setting makes the above moot. I bring them up though because much of what will continue to follow Naga in the future is the question of whether a team could be built around him to win a championship.
What will also be interesting is to see Naga perhaps face off against Ninja in some type of tournament setting down the line. It kind of reminds me of a Kobe/Shaq dynamic with the Lakers. Many critics actually put down Kobe's championships because it was argued Shaq was such a dominating force that Kobe kind of took a bit of a "free ride." Thus, Kobe had to prove to the critics that he could win at a high level with him being the star player.

Impact:

I think Naga's HoF candidacy eventually will be more that solidified with his overall impact on the game with respect to his activity, forward thinking projects, and overall hustle. His work on the mod team has been extraordinary and his ability to take initiative has also been applause worthy. Though these projects are in their infancy, Naga has certainly taken on a leadership role and has helped to create some truly great things for the community...

My vote of a yes though is most undoubtedly based on Naga having won the most recent 2v2 tournament

Spidey_Almighty:

Probably most on the fence with Naga. He is rather new to being a high-tier player and hasn't lead many things as of yet. But the fact that he is a 2v2 tourney champion is really pushing him over the edge for me, as well as being great asset to the community.

I vote yes.

Hattori:

Winning performance in the most recent tournament, coupled with commitment to community iniatives means he is a yes for me.

Ninja:

Naga (contribution, skill, commitment, and overall performance)

Volt:

Naga is probably the player I'm most proud of since the return of the community. He took his opporunity to show the community that he can hang with the best this game has to offer and ran with it.  Beating teams like Raul and Ferrari, Viking and I, and "the unbeatable" Fierce and Manny TWICE. We were both trying to prove ourselves in that tourney and he was the one that got the job done. In my opinion, Naga is a top 10 player when he wants to be and an amazing teammate to have. Not to mention the work he's done with the Dev team, graphics, and managing the community. Naga's opinion is always heard and respected and he is a great competitor. In my opinion, Naga along with a few others are the key driving forces in this community. Anyway, it's been a pleasure to come up with you. Congratz on the tourney win and being inducted into the HoF.

Josh:

Naga definitely deserves a place in the HoF after his 2v2 performance and his involvement in the community.

He’s a force on the Dev team and really cares about the growth and health of the community.

He also has helped me develop as a player. He raged at me after plenty of scrims for playing from the ground or wasting stamina lol. And it helped me start to play smarter and get better.

He’s a great player, excellent community manager, and has been one of my favorite people to get to know through this community.

Naga gets my vote!

Younes:

Came a long way from being Rated "R". Your contribution to the community with your talent on both the OSB side of things and the dev team side of things is greatly appreciated. Plus you are a tournament champion for the very first tournament to ever finish up on the force side of things. I dont agree with some of your thinking cough spawnkilling cough but you speak your mind and can be talked to on even ground about different issues. Same principle holds on the dev team side of things. Great work and I hope to see more from Naga Sado.

Mimmi Da Don:

Alot of people remember naga as a hothead who just recently righted his wrongs and broke through. I have seen the growth of naga from Rated R to Naga: one of the best this community has to offer. This community has historically been cruel to the outsiders and naga’s behavior of yesteryear forced him on the outskirts. Naga has always been one with potential waiting to be tapped, but unfortunately the greats of our community were fixated on wins and not growth. Once the mentality of the founding fathers slowly faded away. It gave room for people to grow that would have been great long before they were if given a fair shake. Rated R was a rebellious monster. Very good but emotional and hardheaded. Since then Naga has become a mature and calculated leader( still sprinkling in some rebellion at heart):joy:. Nevertheless Naga has grown in game and as a person. One of the coolest guys in the community and easily an asset to this new era. Watching naga grow has been an honor.
Yes is the only answer.

DevastatoR:

Naga is quite the interesting personality to watch through the years. When I first came into contact with him so many years back he was a mini-JOG TOM in terms of attitude. My guy would rage at the slightest inconveniences and create in-game vendettas versus other players. I never quite viewed him as toxic but he did have that aggressive tone to him that could have him come off as a bit unwelcoming in spirit. I had the honor of being in Valkyrie University with him until we both transitioned into joining GNE in which both of us had skyrocketed in skill.

Nowadays, Naga has shown his skill level as being top notch and you'd be foolish to not include him in your Top 10 list. His personality is much more welcoming than it was and he's shown that, though blunt, he has good intentions at heart and is just passionate about this game and the community. He not only provides us undeniable proof that you can achieve greatness even when no one else thought you could. The past 2v2 tournament is a prime example. No one saw them beating the duo of Berserk and Fierce twice as Naga was often regarded as the weak link to the team.

Naga also provides amazing and timely GFX for the community that is being utilized all over the Discord, stream, and other platforms which has helped us brand the OSBF name and finally have an established place to call home for the SWBF2 Force players. His drive is still around to this day and he's hungry to continue winning. He is still unraveling his legacy for this community and continuing to pave the way for the new era of playing this game through even further contributions such as being on the dev team.

Naga is a yes from me.

LAK:

have any opinion you want on the person. have any opinion you want on the player. have any opinion on his impact. it does not matter. He won the biggest tournament Jedi has had since 06. It doesn't matter if you think ninja carried him or if you think naga contributed greatly. he WON. no1 else did. PERIOD. instant HoF, especially when you compare his resume to most of the hot garbage in the the so called "hof"


Sparta:

I remember the old GNE back before the game shut down. I used to chill in Skype calls with Ninja a lot playing Conquest and messing around in Jedi, and a lot of the time Naga was there. He wasn’t very good at the game back then, and often was the reason his team struggled. However, that certainly is not the case anymore. When we came back in 2020, Naga had finally let all that muscle memory set in, and he was suddenly one of the best players out there. He crushed the 2v2 tournament with Ninja, and has become a reliable teammate in scrims. He is quite possibly the most improved player of all time, and of the players out there today he is certainly one I’d vote for the hall of fame.
 Topic: Volt
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:34 pm Subject: Volt


Josh:

I nominate @Volt for the HoF.

He has sold out to the return of the OSBF2 community and really has taken initiative with helping all who are looking to get better. He spent hours with me in quarantine training me. Most of my personal improvements in game can be attributed to his training and guidance.

He’s super involved in the no force community and has made a deep run in their tournament showing his mechanical skill of the game. He’s been a great liaison to their community!

His Vader is near unrivaled and he was the main reason that he and Viking advanced so far in the 2v2 tournament. He provided the perfect support to Vikings aggro.

Overall, Volt has been one of the most involved, most skilled, and most welcoming of the community. I believe he deserves a spot in the HoF.

Ajax:

Yes, volt is dedicated player. He helped me a lot in my early force stages, he’s branched out to nf aswell showing maturity. Volt is incredibly op that when you see him on the enemy team makes you be like can’t be asked already :joy:

Easy yes

Ninja:  

I mean Volt is still bad and gets in his feelings easily, but I think he won it by taking initiative and starting the new Mask videos. Obviously he has skyrocketed in power level, I hope his growth doesn’t stop there. Give a special thanks to Viking, because he is the only player you can screw things up a thousand times and will hit you with “your doing poorly right now, but you’ll get it” lmao. I don’t think he could of gotten a better mentor tbh.

Rabbit

The only thing that is against Volt is time. You can’t do anything about what time is given to you, just on how you choose to use it. I think volt has been an amazing addition to the community during this new “saga” by helping newer players get better  and making a competitive opponent for more experienced  players. The match up with Naga/Ninja was also pretty much equal, so I can’t completely hold that against Volt/Viking (also was the best match in tourney imo) Volt is definitely worthy of the HoF title.

Naga~Sado:

Totally agree, everyone here respects Volt, his contributions to the community lately, how willing he has been to help new players and partipcate in the nf community, and the competition he provides. He just hasnt had the proper time to display all of that fully. For his time on pc alone I think Volt is HoF. But I dont like him talking about retiring lmao. Smell the flowers and keep gardening; there are some large shoes to fill in the HoF. I think if there was to ever be another clan made in this new era, Volt would be at the helm of it.  I am glad to see him get his respect after these years and hope he keeps using the respect to better the community!

Ferrari:

Imo, currently Volt is one of the most contributing members of this era. Whether its making unbalanced mix scrims teams to MASK vids he always has a say that is respected among the community in game and on disc. Skill in game is also at a high caliber especially on Vader. Yes for me.

Master~Raul:

Volt is one of the best players currently. Its amazing to see how far he has gotten. His hard work and dedication to improvehimself has paid off tbh. One of the best Vaders currently and a boost of activity to the community. My respect to this fella. He is a Yes for me.

Hattori:

When I came back there were quite a few players that I knew nothing about due to them being late bloomers. I believe Volt has demonstrated what skill level can be achieved with commitment. I feel this new HoF is not only a way to rectify past admissions but give the newer class a chance to shine. Volt has grabbed the bull by the horns with his in-game skill, invovlements in all facets of the PC community and now as a MASK mentor. A great example for players in this era :thumbsup:

Spidey_Almighty:

Even tho ur bad and rage quitted ur own hall of fame. You deserve it my dude. Congrats, look forward to seeing what great things you do in the future.

DevastatoR:

In no harsh regards, I would've been a no on this solely because I don't think skill alone should make you a Hall of Famer unless you give a complete display of undisputed dominance over the entire community. But that isn't quite the case for Volt. I vaguely remember me and Volt being on roughly the same skill level back on PS2 pre-GameSpy shutdown though I'd admit he would have an edge over me as I believe he did scrims and was more involved in competition than I was. Volt has clearly skyrocketed in skill since this resurgence of the community and has been an amazing example of determination and dedication will bring you to where you want to be on this game. He has put in many more hours than a lot of us and it has shown.

What sways me to say yes now though is his community involvement. At first he wasn't a contender for being an OSBF2 Manager because he seemed to be only interested in competing and playing the game. This is no knock on him as anyone is free to do as they'd like and some people do not want the extra responsibilities or simply cannot prioritize such with a busy life. Recently though, Volt has gone above and beyond to bring content to the YouTube channel in regards to producing MASK content. MASK content will not only help current players but it will even more benefit the whole community indefinitely as we push to bring new people to the game. It bridges the gap from new players with skilled players and removes a sense of exclusivity to the community. He is making the community much more welcoming and enjoyable for anyone of all skill levels; whether they be new, returning, or even just trying to improve; and it's very commendable.

Volt is a yes from me.

Sparta:

I don’t know Volt very well, but what I do know is that he’s a driven guy who loves to learn and improve.  Volt doesn’t shy away from a fight, and always takes something from it. He’s an information sponge, and that makes him very deadly on the field. I’ve only played with him a couple times, and I knew he was a teammate I could count on. He’s played a big part in the force communities return in 2020, and he’s easily one of the best players out there right now. When thinking about who’d I’d have put in the new HoF, Volt would have been right near the top of my list.
 Topic: Devastator
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:28 pm Subject: Devastator


Naga~Sado:

Devastator has been known as “the player to watch” since 2012, because of his dedication, he has not disappointed. I first met Devastator after the 2012 LSJ vs V clan wars; an unfortunate time for the community. In 2012, JOG had already left PS2, leaving two clans remaining. Activity was lower than ever, yet the disparity in skill between the high-level V players and everyone else was wider than ever. While most players were looking past the battlefront community, assuming it would be dead forever, Devastator remained diligent and active. The clan V had created a training program similar to MASK, and Devastator and myself were the first two of 4 members. The opportunity to train with and against the highest level players, was a humbling, yet valuable experience. I believe that is where the playstyle Devastator has been well known for was first developed.

In the 2013 era Devastator was given another opportunity to utilize the skills he had obtained through his dedicated training. In GNE, Devastator was one of the most well known and competitive members. His skill continued to progress as he gained further confidence in the game. Around this time is when Devastator developed into a “thought-leader” in the community, preparing him for his role in the current era.

We can all attest to how relieving it was to have Devastator as the keystone staff member of the 2v2 tournament. He was always reliable to stream, record stats, and even kept score each match manually. He took initiative in leading the discord and challonge, the very first hurdle the “New Era” community had to clear. Devastator always provides thoughtful and useful feedback to any issue being debated, and he is always considerate when mediating issues.

I believe Devastator is deserving of “Hall-of-fame” status, because he has exemplified how to improve yourself and the community, with patience. Devastator had to start out from the bottom and grind, when few others were even interested in improving. He has remained hopeful, inspiring others to also hold a positive outlook about the game. Devastator started his career with the intention of being a competitive player; in the present: he has achieved while also becoming a leader. If there is any arc, journey, or career path, that we should celebrate in a gaming community: it is the players who made things happen and encouraged others, even when no one else was watching to give applause.

Mastaisac:

I hold a special place in my heart for people I call that are "visionaries" for the community. There have been different visionaries for the community...  JOG Jeff created the mythological and political culture of Jedi play, SuperDuper created the hard edge sith culture of force play, Sinister reimagined SDJ hard edge culture in a more modern context, Fearless created a cultural cult fixated on high level mechanical play with -V-, Huey created the Abyss which held the whole of the community together for years...  Devastator is this era's new "visionary."

The vision is different this time around though. The vision comes with the following elements highlighted above all else: organizational prowess, streaming of tournament matches, the introduction of commentating for tournament matches, and an overall sense of professionalism to organized tournament play. This has been stated many times but is worth stating again for sake of remembering: without Devastator's high level of involvement with the 2v2 tournament, it would have been something that may not have been completed or, at the very least, not done to the high level we now expect as a community ought to come out of tournaments. His high level of technological organization has, in turn, inspired even a community apart from the force community to do their tournaments in much the same format.

Devastator is no slouch with respect to his skill either. Though he had a disappointing showing in the 2v2 tournament, the community nominated him as an all-star and he has been a notable member of -V- which, according to modern era play, assumes that to have been in -V- shows a high level of mechanical skill. I think Devastator will have a chance to prove his talents in this up and coming 3v3 tournament. I, and many others, will be watching closely.

All this being said, even if Dev did not have all-star level skill, he would be in the HoF for the impact category alone. An easy yes for me.

Spidey_Almighty:

DevastatoR's place in the Hall of Fame was all but inevitable. There is a special room at the end of the hall for players like him. Truly a legend.

Ninja:

Devastator (monster before he went inactive, contribution within community, leading role model within community)

Master~Raul:

What would be of the community without Deva? Of course yes, he deserves it!

Volt:

Devastator imo is one of the best support players in the game. He's so frustrating to play against because the moment you think you secured a kill, Deva will come swooping in for the save. And he does it well with both choke and push. He's able to mesh well with a variety of team compositions and having a player like Deva on your team can be key to success. Not to mention his obvious leadership abilities. He's done a hell of a job developing this discord from the ground up and if it weren't for him, there's no way the 2v2 tourney would have went as well as it had. Deva more than deserves HoF. Congratz man.

Younes:

Congratulations Deva, your contribution alone in the past few weeks to the community lands you a place in the HoF. You are a great level headed member/leader of the community and you get the respect you deserve from everyone here. Your skill level lands you on many top 10 lists and that is for a reason. Great guy to have on your team. Look forward to you getting back into the grind of things around here so that you can further your swbf2 career.

Josh: Congrats Deva. You deserve it! You’re the legend who will he remembered for this OSBF2 reboot. And you’re a great player!

LAK: Only because of running a jedi tournament successfully.

Rabbit:

Deva is a no brainer for me. He’s the one who is the glue to the community. If he’s gone, who else will replace him ? Seriously. I feel like a lot of people would say they can but they will drop the ball after a week. This man has shown the most dedication, patience and consistency to PC than anyone else I’ve seen. He has a talent for organization and attention to detail which really helps in leading this community. Skill wise, he’s solid. I personally think he hasn’t had the chance to prove himself and unfortunately he doesn’t play too often (at least from what I see). This man is SO undervalued in this community that it literally upsets me lol D:< #Deva2020


Denial:

I'm really glad Devastator made it into the HoF at last! I've seen a few tourney matches/scrims of him and he's got the skills! But I'm going to speak community wise(due to the fact I can't play the game so I'm not fit to really speak about his skill). His contribution and dedication to the community is fenomenal. When someone needs any kind of help or advice with anything, in comes Deva to save the day. When there's a new proyect, there's Deva giving his suggestions as well. I know him from way back in the days and he's always been a great fella, a true leader and always wanting to improve everything. Makes me real happy for him to be acknowledged. Keep up the great work Deva!

Splinter:

I don't think many people had to put up with as much of my bullshit as Dev did, we played a lot later on in the PC versions life after we had established a community for the PS2 ruleset and style of play.  I was horrible to play with back then and sometimes only slightly better now, Dev never complained or took it personally.  Always calm and collected, feeding information and keeping tabs on everyone like he does.

We became friends pretty quickly and this branched into other games for a time as well, obviously this is for this game though and Jedi specifically.  Dev as a person is always calm a grounded presence when you play with him, you hardly ever hear anything get to him.  On top of this his support play is damn good back then and now too, always there for his team when they need him most.

I think the coolest thing for me as someone who managed to play with him a lot was watching him grow though, I already had a prominent place in the community after the platform shift but Dev had to grow into and work for it.  Now with the revival he's been the backbone of it all, and it's been something awesome to see.

I won't assume to speak for everyone but I think without him and what he's doing this time around a lot of this wouldn't be possible, I always knew he had the potential for all of this but he never had to do it back then.  He's stepped up to the plate now and done a damn fine job as well.

For this, putting up with me and my temper, and being a great friend.  He more than deserves to take his place in the Hall of Fame.

Congrats my friend
 Topic: Splinter
JOGChronicler

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PostForum: The Red Hall Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:23 pm Subject: Splinter


Naga~Sado:

Splinter aka Caamen is known by every battlefront community as one of the most skilled and dedicated players. Since the competitive jedi community first moved to PC, Splinter has been regarded as one of the best, yet he still grinds diligently to improve himself. Splinter was nominated an All-star player, he has been one of the most consistently skilled since 2012, any team he’s on has a solid shot, and Splinter’s clan-scrim-record shows that.

As a leader in FOG, Splinter was able to bring in many new players whose skill increased by playing in more competitive environments. Splinter’s work to create space for a Force community on PC, laid the foundation for our community today. Even in the 2013 era, Splinter was one of the most active and successful members of GNE.
Of the handful of players who are “thought-leaders”, Splinter has by far been the most outgoing and consistent. When Jedi players first began competing on PC: Splinter was one of the first who learned to utilize the No-Force skill, while making inroads with the NF community. Splinter’s contributions to the game can be witnessed clearly outside of the game as well. Splinter was always active on clan websites, often contributing GFX-works or helping with site design. He invited many bf2  players to learn and practice their graphic design skills on a competitive forum. Splinter has been involved in the ps2 conquest community, the old no force community, the old force community, and still contributes just as much today. Respect must also be given for Splinter’s work in founding the Battlefront Competitive League. Many conquest players have joined our discord and tournaments , no-doubt because of the cross-relations. Splinter has one of the most logistically inclined minds of the community and has always taken the initiative to utilize that for the betterment of the community.

Finally, speaking to Splinter as a sportsman: I very much appreciate players who can be  competitive and collaborative. When you have invested time and effort into the community, it comes naturally that you care for it greatly. This passion reflects in Splinter’s calm but sometimes fiery demeanour. Knowing Splinter all these years, when he is at his most inflamed, it's usually for a reason. He is always respectful about his disagreements, keeping his criticisms focused around the game. He is also a player who won’t exclude anyone, no matter his personal perception. I have followed Splinter’s lead and his ideals over the years, several times, and I am a better community member for it!

Mastaisac:

Naga spoke well on Splinter. I would like to add some thoughts as I have known Splinter since back in 2006...

Of all the nominations here, Splinter is definitely one of the most deserving to have the honor of a HoF placement. I'll use the two categories of both skill and impact to better illustrate my argument:

Skill:

Splinter's skill trajectory started as a beginner in LOE with Donatello, Raphael, Leonardo, and Michelangelo. While many have assumed that his name naturally fit with the TMNT, he would later tell me he actually came up with his name after a piece of wood...  In LOE, Splinter's skill was certainly developing. Thus, in the Golden Age and Abyssian Age his skill wasn't as developed as it would become.

I feel he started to hit his stride in the expansionary age personally with his skill from 2012 and onward. That jump in skill was certainly noticeable when he transitioned to the PC and represented JOG for a good period of time. He then made the jump into -V- which many modern players today consider the height of one's skill for a force player. I don't really think he was ever really able to fully test his new found skills in that era though as things began to die down around 2015... But he was certainly held in high regard even during that era for his skill. Probably a top ten or fifteen Jedi player at the time. He has also now become an all-star and has been recognized by the community at large for his skill currently.

Splinter's skill I think now is more a perfection of what it was five years ago or so. His skill on the field is really a mix of things: patience, aggression, calculation... His gift is naturally being able to switch and swap styles he wishes to use at particular moments.

Impact:

I feel as though Splinter's impact alone however would earn him the right for a HoF enshrinement. Back in 2012, the PS2 side of things were starting to come to an end. At the time, JOG had developed an interest on PC SWBF2 as a new outlet to potentially explore in hopes to recruit fresh new talent and keep the game alive. During this period in JOG, it was announced that Splinter, along with Master Raul, would lead the PC JOG division and sort of explore this new area that had previously been unexplored by the PS2 community.

Splinter and Raul both took the lead on this and made transitioning to the PC community viable for JOG. It is interesting to note that back in 2012, much of the PS2 community was against a transition to the PC side of things. Without Splinter and Raul leading that JOG expeditionary force onto the PC, I truly think this game and community would have died back in 2012/2013. Though they may not have realized it at the time, Splinter and Raul actually proved to the entire PS2 community that moving to the PC was the next logical step for the community to do... in fact, it was the only logical step. Shortly after, the PS2 servers went down.

Splinter's leadership during that time was remarkable as well. He along with Raul went crazy on recruitment. They built up JOG expansionary players like Ferrari, Chris, Max, David, Troha, and others... This spurred a bit of a renaissance for the game as a whole and before you knew it, other clans were joining the fray and bringing back life to SWBF2. Both men deserve all the credit in the world for, in my eyes, unofficially saving the game by their steadfast belief in PC SWBF2 being the next step for the community.

Splinter is a huge yes for me.

Master~Raul:

Splinter has been around the game from way back in the day. He is a known and respected player in the community but to me what makes him deserve a spot in the HoF of this game is his contribution to the new era of the game. When I first moved to PC I didnt know much about this community and who were the main players. Neji told me that there was this old ps2 player that was around the PC community playing conquest so I contacted Splinter and talked to him about JOG and the ideas I had with PC. Long story short, Splinter and I started going to public servers showing the PS2 style and started recruiting players who at the time we thought had the potential to become good players in force (Like Isaac mentioned). His leadership and his relationships with the community definetly were key in making the transition of PS2 players to PC possible. Without him, I dont think I could have made JOG move to PC and have the success we had back in 2012.
He is undoubtely a great player, his skills are undeniable. But what for me stands the most is the role he took in extending the life of a game we all love. It was no easy task teaching all the force players there were, how to game was played in ps2, let alone NFers, who at the time used to think we were just noobs because we relied in force. Later more PS2 players would join us and helped us out grow the force community. From going server to server to invite players to play us to the wars with SWGO and the Sith Empire, creating a vVv version in PC... what Splinter and I acomplished back in the day was amazing and I dont think many of you know this, but it was like a year of work to prepare the platform for all to come and keep enjoying the game. Splinter was key in achieving this, everyone in PC knew him and respected him and his leadership skills helped to make the transition of PS2 to PC and also lets remember his role managing BCL.

He is a great friend and dearly remember all we did. He has my vote, no doubt.

Sevyl:

Most of my experience with Splinter is from way back in the day, 2010~. He was a pleasure to have in a few of my clans. He was always a solid player that showed promise. His GFX skills were always impressive(back in the gfx forum days) If I remember correctly he was also an admin over @ the Abyss

Since then Splinter has rose up to be an accomplished leader on this game, Whether it be managing the BCL, his time in hidden arrows, and his current work with OSBF2.

Spidey_Almighty:

Honoring and respecting the crazy efforts of people like CAAMEN to continue making this community great is the reason the HoF was created.

Fierce:

I’ll keep it short and sweet,
Splinter without a doubt is the main reason for the transition for PS2 players making the switch to PC, without his Time and commitment to help growing the scene I highly doubt we would have came this far.

When I first Came over to PC around 2013 or 2014, Splinter was your Go to Guy, he was well respected in the Community and also he was regarded as one of the Best players in the game. Another great amenity he showed, was his ability to Lead. I saw a New generation of Players looking up to him as he continued to lead his Teams to victory.

Sparta:

Splinter is my best friend, and one of the coolest dudes I’ve ever met. He’s always been someone I could count on, and that means everything to me. Aside from being a great friend, Splinter is a master of the game. He was a respected No Force master, he is a great conquest player, and arguably the best force player to actually be born on the PC side of the game. Few people truly dominate the pc swbf2 trifecta, but splinter is certainly one of them. He played a massive part in bringing ps2 to pc, and has always been one of the most respected figures of the community. Splinter is always shooting for the #1 spot, and had come so far from where he started. He’s a reliable teammate in the toughest of matches, and an incredibly hard player to beat 1v1 for whoever you are. We wouldn’t be here today without the efforts of Splinter, and nobody is more deserving of a spot in the hall of fame.

Josh:

Splinter was one of the main reasons I wanted to join JOG. I looked up to him a lot as a younger player and I respected his skill and game a lot and in many ways, tried to emulate his game play. I’m glad he’s getting the respect he deserves! Congrats Caamen!


Younes:

Splinter aka Caamen aka Kman deserves to be in HoF. He was one of few to bridge the gap from PS2 to PC. I remember it was Splinter, Raul, Myself and a few others from JOG that made the push to PC and started to make our presences known to the PC community. Splinter went a step further and accelerated his SWBF2 career by not only competing at a higher level in NF but also in the BCL. This HoF is obviously for the achievements on the force side of swbf2 which in that regard Splinter has hit all of the check marks for being in the HoF. He has led many clans, competed at a higher level, helped the community grow, brought many new comers to our crazy community, and overall a pretty good guy to be around. He is a rager but it is at no harm to anyone, he is just being a Kman. Congratulations to Caamen on his accomplishments.


Volt: Everyone else has pretty much expressed my thoughts. Splinter is both a great leader and player. He was one of the pioneers of the ps2 movement to PC and I believe the first ps2 player to be good at NF. Man was in V and Hidden Arrows (NF equivalent of V) which I think is something to brag about. A very strategic player with the mechanical skills to back it up. Also one of my favorite players to make rage. Congratz Splinter, you deserve it.

DevastatoR:

Very late to the party here as he has already been confirmed for the HoF but this one goes without saying that Caamen is more than qualified to be in the HoF.

From the start of his SWBF2 days he was always one of the people around but never quite showered with the greatness that others like Fearless, Neji, etc did. He may not have been the most notable figure during this period but he was still integral to many, many clans we were all once in. He did a lot of GFX as well when GFX forums were around. I wasn't very close to Caamen at this time but I was acquainted with him and he was a common name to hear around the community.

By the time the PC move came about in late 2014 post-GameSpy PS2 server shutdown, Caamen had already built a foundation for us to make the move onto the next platform and continue to thrive. Of course this, in part, was with help from Raul, but this is Caamen's nomination we're talking about. He has not only founded the PC Force community but he also has created the BCL and shown that his organizational and leadership skills have been essential to the health of this game's entire community.

In regards to his skills, he was never a bad Jedi player and back in 2014/2015 GNE me and him were an undefeated duo. He always has a drive to be competitive and improve and this is displayed by his involvement with BCL and competitive spirit in infantry as well. Although me and him didn't make a deep run as expected in the 2v2 tournament I can tell you that is largely my fault to take and he was definitely playing up to par with many of the deep runners. He fits the bid for skill and impact on the community.

An absolute yes from me.
 Topic: 2v2 Quarantine Tournament of 2020
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