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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:54 pm Reply with quote
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Younes:

Kendrick was so close to making the cut for the last HoF. His skill alone at the time would have got him into the HoF but he just didnt have much to his name overall. That statement doesnt hold true for this day and age. 100% a HoFer for the swbf2 community. Keep on grinding brother, and stop trolling.

Volt:

Pretty much everyone considered him the GOAT the last couple years the game was active. He surpassed so many great players in such a little amount of time. Him and Fearless are probably next to unbeatable in a 2v2. Fierce is an exceptional team player, and in my opinion, the best "pusher" of all time. He plays nearly every situation correctly and you can learn a ton just by watching him play. This was a long time coming, congratz.

Devastator:

Fierce has easily been one of the players that when everyone heard he wasn’t already in the Hall of Fame they were shocked. I think that speaks a lot for how qualified he is for being in the HoF. Not only has Fierce spent countless hours solidifying himself as one of the greats, this wasn’t exclusive to just Jedi. I’m sure most of you know, but in case you didn’t, Fierce actually played in the BFC. If my memory serves correctly it was for 2-3 season maybe? I also believe he was a great player there as well. He’s been able to mesh with many communities and has been an overall stellar player all around. Fierce’s name is known by all and for a justified reason.

I lack much to say on much more past his skill level as I was never really a scrim partner or got that close to him. I’ve always known him to be a pretty level-headed guy and didn’t ever hear much negativity coming out of him. Recently after speaking wit him some more I can clearly see more what type of guy he is and he does have a real drive for competition but sometimes just needs that extra motivation to get going. He’s always been fun to be around and he’s been a driving force for many players to improve their own game as many look up to him.

Fierce is a yes from me.

Sevyl:

I actually don't have too much experience with Fierce over the years, but what little experience I have, I definetly think he is deserving.

So with my first experience with him maybe 2011-2012, He was a noob much like Manny. However difference being, Manny was personally hand trained by one of the game's greatest Kratos, I don't believe Fierce had that kind of 1on1 training. (maybe fearless but idk I was gone)

When I came back to the game a few years later Fierce was a top tier player all the sudden. He was constantly wrecking me in a server, so I wanted to 1v1 him cause I thought he was just some random person.

Well boy was I wrong, I believe he beat me the first time and I rage quit, severely underestimating my opponent. I was still getting adjusted to being back on the game, tried my hardest against him a few days later and managed to tie with him. Just tie, I didn't want to break it and chance this guy beating me again and he was fine with it! What a champ.

Now in this current age of the game, He has definetly been a top 3 player. He is extremely smart, agressive yet reserved, and a great teammate. Definetly one of the players you can admire when playing against. Also his attitude on the game is definetly welcome of someone of his caliber

Mastaisac:

As many have indicated, it probably does come as a shock that Fierce was not in the first round of the HoF when this all came about back in the day. The reasonings back then were as follows:

- Many argued that Fierce had not proven he could remain at an elite level for a long period of time (years)
- Many also felt that the small sample size of his ascendency, while impressive, just wasn't enough to earn him a spot

These arguments were made back in 2012.

Since those arguments, Fierce, in my eyes and many others here, has always been considered a top five player since then which is truly incredible. Fierce was also a tournament champion before it became "cool." In the prior 2v2 tournament Rabz and I hosted back in 2013/2014, he and Blade proved victorious. Needless to say, he's always been one of those players that instantly gives your team a chance just by having him on your team.

I remember Fierce growing up in BOT. At the time, the community viewed the clan as a bit of a joke Jedi Assault wise. Through determination, grit, and effort, Fierce started to really develop his skill along with Ahole to the point that both he and Ahole were actually not a 2v2 duo to be taken lightly. During that time, I remember Fierce going on a tear with challenging anyone and everyone to a 1v1. I became one of the people that took up the challenge. His greatness was so clear as a player even back then that I knew I had to establish at the outset that it be a pusher vs. pusher match only to have any remote chance of winning as his choker would have obliterated me. You can correct me if I'm mistaken @Fierce, but I think we ultimately tied. What you may not have known was that my whole college dorm floor was watching that match chanting, cheering, and jeering with each point exchanged. All of my friends thought you to be a bad ass, and rightly so. You had my palms sweating and commanded my full attention.

After BOT, he made his way through numerous clans (JOG and LSJ to name a few) taking notes from other great players and picking up morsels and tid bits to better improve his own game. The height of his skill would finally culminate with his inclusion in -V- which has become rightly known in the community as the validation of a player's complete mechanical mastery. Fierce continues to be an elite player to this day rightly being noted as one of those "S" ranked type gamers.

I have become more impressed over time with this man's sense of humility and his ability to check his pride. When I think of the term: competitive integrity, Fierce is the incarnation of that. He has always allowed his game to speak for him knowing full well that one's skill on the field speaks more volumes than any amount of guttural bloviating one could say. I've also come to know Fierce as a most respectful and goofy guy. You're a genuinely "A" class gentleman good sir. I know you have the highest of expectations for yourself, but you definitely deserve your spot in the limelight and the chance to be honored officially by your peers in a more formal format.

Thank you so much for your activity and your presence in the game over the years. You have inspired more than you will ever know

Naga-Sado:

It is well known that fierce is an incredible competitor, on any game or gamemode. It seems so well known at times, we often don’t credit it in the same way we do other players. It may seem a ‘no-brainer’ to induct Fierce. I want to add some of my perspective of Fierce, to really explain why we respect Fierce so much.
I appreciate Isac mentioning Fierce’s beginnings in BOT. Yet another testament to the impact of BOT and its culture to bring anyone up along the competitive path. Fierce started from the bottom politically, but the same could not be said for his gaming skill. Every time Fierce has sought to improve, he knows where he needs to begin, and where he must go to keep improving. From jedi, to conquest, to even COD, he uses his prior gaming experience to expedite his improvement.

Fierce has also developed a consistent playstyle, making him the most versatile player in the game. Many would remark that Fierce is one of the most mechanically skilled players in the game; But to think that is his defining factor is foolish, and doesn’t credit his skill enough. What makes Fierce different from the great players he’s competed against is his foresight. Catching Fierce off-guard or surprising him is a rarity; If you wan’t Fierce to not know what you are going to do: YOU have to not know what you are going to do. Even if a player did manage to surprise Fierce, he knows how to calmly utilize his game knowledge to react with haste.

Fierce is one of the few players who doesn’t play the game, he plays the players. So one could learn all the No-force tricks, switch to keyboard and mouse, learn all the V exploits Fierce helped discover and popularize, and a player would still lose to Fierce using nothing but patient pushes. Fierce’s strategy of “less is more” is also what helps him excel in teamplay. Because he isn’t cluttering his actions with unnecessarily risky plays, Fierce is always a force to be reckoned with. If you have someone tumbled and Fierce is still on the map, that kill doesn’t belong to you at all, you likely just got baited into a double-kill haha. If you thought you could separate Fierce and 2v1 him to death real quick, nope, you better disengage before you overextend and get scrapped like Fierce planned. I find his playstyle so unique because typically we see the analytic players playing super slow or super fast- yet he manages to implement the benefits of both playstyles. Overall, I admire Fierce’s drive to learn, adapt, and raise the mental skill of Battlefront meta.

I’m not gonna bother listing off the clan’s Fierce has been involved in, because he was known as a clan-hoe in some eras. I want to briefly address his time in V and V’s impact on the community. From 2011 onwards, there was a narrative propagated by JOG which stated V and it’s players killed the competitive community. It needs to be stated on record that this was not the unanimous opinion of the community. When JOG left ps2 in 2012, LSJ reemerged and V remained the competition of the community. Even during the least populated and most sombering era of Battlefront 2, V was the sole reason players sought to improve and grow the community. Many of the up and coming players and the veteran players only continued playing because no one had yet to manage beating V in a significant way. The few losses V did take, were usually involving a former V player on the opposite team.  It was also during this era when V started sharing their exploit knowledge and training more players.

The accusation that V made the game inactive originated on websites, yet V was a clan who let their gameplay talk. Is a clan made up of the best players in the game problematic? Potentially, yes. I think it is understandable that the players who made up V came together. They are all very genuine and humble people who didn’t gloat in their domination. V was a group of confident, skilled, and thoughtful players, in the past no one would blink an eye at that I bet. The era V inhabited was also a different time. V was participating in a community who often seemed to prefer forum warriors and honor wars. A community that, during much of V’s reign, seemed very unmotivated to keep progressing. Many were content to maintain their legacies and leave the game to die. Yet, V continued, and the players you see being respected in this new era, also continued. Performing  your best with no audience look is something that should always be commended. The old clans and thought-leaders seemed to value subjugating lots of low-skill players while embellishing the honor of their elite players. I respect V so much, because there was little glory to be had in their era’s. They didn’t do anything unfair to the community. Fierce is a shining example that you don’t have to be the “chosen one” like Manny, or the “golden boy” like Neji to gain respect in a community. You just had to be genuine in your passion for the game, first and foremost. So no, they didn’t snuff out the activity of the game. V gave players a reason to keep playing. Our current new era looks MOST like the era’s when V was around. Not a ton of players, but a ton of passion. And the players at the top are a few stories taller than everyone else. How will our community respond this time?

That was a bit of a tangent but Fierce is V and V is Fierce. Speaking more personally now, i’d like to briefly mention the impact playing with Fierce has had on me. If you saw Fierce and I chatting in a server or playing against each other, you’d probably think we hated each other. He is troll and I am troll, so its possible that is sometimes true. But I have always respected Fierce like and older gaming-brother. I think BOT is the only clan we’ve ever been in at the same time, funny enough I think we were in BOT for jedi around 2010 and BOT for conquest around 2012. When you are toxic like A-hole was, it brings people together haha. But for the rest of my Battlefront career, I have always wanted to compete against Fierce. That isn’t to say I always was competing against him, but in Conquest and Jedi, I knew my goal was to be good enough to compete against him. In conquest, Fierce wasn’t just solid at every class, but he was starting material- capable of going toe-to-toe with anyone. His aptitude for being a flexible player is what has made him a standout over all these years. In jedi or conquest, if you were competing against Fierce and lost, you could at least take solace in learning from all the ways he killed you.

Even in my personal gameplay, there are responses and tactics that I know I gained from playing against Fierce. For example, the way Fierce uses every save as an opportunity to gain a kill. Most players using Darth Maul will get a tumble and just start comboing , trying to quickly finish their long combo animation; Never Fierce. A tumble for him is just convenient bait, allowing Fierce to out blink-block his opposition. If Fierce has a player tumbled or his own teammate is tumbled, he never hesitates in his response. He quickly positions himself safely, and often does NOTHING. You don’t understand how to properly make a save until you can save your teammate by literally just standing there with your block down. And let's say the opposing player gets bold and pushes or goes in for the kill. Fierce will effortlessly angle his push to tumble the enemy who thought they would be safe in a 2v1. Fierce is one of the few players who exploit the enemy teammates actions against each other, even if they don’t realize how badly they got outplayed.

In summation, I felt compelled to add this because Fierce is one of the few people thoroughly respect and admire as a player. I don’t just respect him as a player though, he has always been an enjoyable person to talk to and game alongside. He has never been one of the players to play the political games, yet he has impacted this game more than most veterans and has the records to show. I don’t believe in nominating someone just because of their skill, and I felt like that was being a bit implied with how this channel looks. Fierce is the reason most of the veteran players are still around with a purpose. The 2v2 tournament displayed how even without V being officially present, Fierce was still able to be at the apex of the community. We wouldn’t have been motivated to play or keep playing as hard as we have without Fierce’s presence! I know players like Fierce are motivated by the prospect of learning something new and pushing the limits to which they can improve. When people are at their highest point, the fear of perfection often sets in. The dread that there is no where higher to go, nothing to question your absolute skill, no more moments of reflection and learning, no more joy of devising new strategies and skills, no nostalgic wonder of motivation. These are the aspects that motivate one to develop themselves and invest in the community. So as a thank you gift for all the inspiration and knowledge I’ve gotten from you Fierce: We will give you the gift of a GNE 2-peat victory!

Rabbit:

I voted yes for Fierce back in the day and will vote yes again now. Fierce had always been a player that played with so much confidence. I remember when Isaac and I played him and Blade for our finals in the 2v2 tourney in 13’ we got WHOOPED. Lol Fierce was a dominant player then and still is now. He won last 2v2 tourney & got into the finals ALMOST winning it again. Lost by a handful of points. This guy is more than deserving


 
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